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СообщениеДобавлено: Ср 20 Июл 2005, 04:19    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

President Vladimir Putin is the most evil person I have seen incarnated on this planet. He has a black serpent thing running throughout his aura.
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There is another leader who will rise to power in these last days. This man is called Gog of the land of Magog.

Could he be the current leader of Russia, Mr. Putin? It is very possible that Mr. Putin is the leader that the Bible says is Gog in the land of Magog. On the other hand, it is entirely possible that Putin will be replaced with a leader that will be Gog in the land of Magog. In these final days changes can happen very quickly and there could be a change in leadership in Russia. However, Putin certain is a possible candidate for the role of Gog in the land of Magog.

One day, this Russian leader will lead an attack against Israel in the days before the return of the Lord Jesus. There are many questions as to the exact timing of this invasion. One fact remains. Russia will gather together a great army and lead an attack against Israel. This will fulfill Ezekiel chapter 38 and 39 in the Bible.
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СообщениеДобавлено: Ср 20 Июл 2005, 10:54    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

Sorry guys, but we don't have an army good enough to go fight against Izrael. And it seems to be a very stupid idea to go there anyway. Do you know, that Izrael is far enough from Russia to be safe from our army? Cool
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СообщениеДобавлено: Чт 21 Июл 2005, 08:15    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

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Sorry guys, but we don't have an army good enough to go fight against Izrael. And it seems to be a very stupid idea to go there anyway. Do you know, that Izrael is far enough from Russia to be safe from our army? Cool

Ezekiel 38: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

God says He will put hooks into thy jaws. This is a reference to the fact that Putin and the nation has NO CHOICE.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

Here God is commanding Russia and all the allies to prepare for this time. Build the biggest armies possible because judgment is coming. The bigger the army the more glory God will receive when He judges and destroys this wicked army.

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Again another reference to the fact that the invasion will involve a large number of people. Russia and the allies will form a great army and attack the land of Israel.

10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

These verses describe the motive for the invasion. Russia wants to take a spoil. It has much to gain from conquering Israel. They would have a warm water port and a strong foothold in the Middle East. With Europe above them and Africa below Russia would have an excellent military position. There is also resources in the land which could be exploited. Russia could also be in a position to cut off oil supplies to the west. Why go to war with the west when they can be damaged by just cutting off their oil supplies.
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СообщениеДобавлено: Чт 21 Июл 2005, 11:12    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

There is only one problem - motivation. Even if Putin wants to fight that doesn't mean that russians want to fight, too. I think that we had enough wars in the past to be wise not to start them again. The only way to start fighting against the Izrael is if Izrael will start the war first. But I am not sure that they are so stupid. So, there are strong reasons to find another candidate for this role of the world's evil. And personaly I expect that arabian or chineese sooner start the War then others. China is much more ready then Russia to start the War and they have their interests on the territories of their neighbours. Arabian fight against Izrael in the Past and do it now. So, why on Earth you have choisen Russia?

Or you like to be scared by this idea? Rolling Eyes
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СообщениеДобавлено: Пт 22 Июл 2005, 05:03    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

"Son of man, set your face toward Gog of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophecy against him, and say, 'Thus says the Lord God, "Behold, I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. And I will turn you about, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them splendidly attired, a great company with buckler and shield, all of them wielding swords; Persia, Ethiopia, and Put with them, all of them with shield and helmet; Gomer with all its troops; Beth-togarmah from the remote parts of the north with all its troops, many peoples with you." Ezekiel 38:2-6

"And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies, assembled to, make war against Him who sat upon the horse, and against His army." Revelation 19:19

Most experts identify Magog as being associated with the ancient peoples known as the Scythians. Ancient historian, Joseph Flavius, clearly identifies Magog: "Magog founded the Magogians, thus named after him, but who were by the Greeks called Scythians." Another reliable source comes from Herodotus, known as the "Father of History." Herodotus writes of the bizarre and savage practices of the descendents of Magog known as the Scythians. They drank the blood of the first enemy they killed; they carried the heads of the victims to their chiefs; they scalped their enemies and used the scalps as "napkins"; they used the skins of their victims to cover their quivers; they drank from the skulls of their victims; they practiced blood brotherhood by drinking each other's blood mixed with wine. The Scythians. "bathed" in the vapor from heated hemp seeds. When their king died, they sacrificed one of his concubines and several servants. After a year, they commemorated his death by sacrificing fifty servants and fifty horses. And you thought you lived in a bad neighborhood!

We know that the descendants of Magog by their Greek name, Scythians. In Greek mythology the Scythians descended from Scythes, the youngest of the three sons of Hercules, from sleeping with a half viper and half woman. The name Scythian covers a number of nomadic tribes from the Russian steppes, a fertile area of the Ukraine north of the Black Sea. Other related tribes occupied the area to the east of the Caspian Sea. The area encompassed by the Scythians extended from the mid-Volga to the northern Urals and beyond. They colonized Media, Parthia, Persia, Central Asia and as far as the Chinese border. Arab writers confirm that in the Arabic language their name for the Great Wall of China is called "the wall of Al Magog" because the Great Wall was built to keep out the invading armies from Magog. All together an area of about 2,000 square miles. So clearly this was the former Soviet Union, modern day Russia.

So, who then is Gog.? Gog is obviously the leader of Magog, he is the "Prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal." So Gog will be the leader of this Russian led military horde. Chuck Missler, Bible teacher and a international authority on Russia and the Middle East, sheds new light on the identity of Gog. In his book, 'The Magog Invasion' he discovered a provocative reference to Gog in the book of Amos that has been widely overlooked. The traditional rendering of Amos 7:1 reads as follows:
"Thus hath the Lord God shewed unto me; and, behold, he informed grasshoppers in the beginning of the shooting up of the latter growth; and, lo, it was the latter growth after the king's mowings." Amos 7:1 (KJV)
Our English Bible takes its translation from the Masoretic text, a 9th century source. However, an earlier translation of the Old Testament into Greek, known as the Septuagint, embodies a different rending of Amos 7:1:
"Thus the Lord showed me, and behold a swarm of locusts were coming, and behold, one of the young devastating locusts was Gog, the King." Amos 7:1 (LXX)

The identification of Gog as the king of the locusts would have profound implications. Proverbs 30:27 reveals that "the locusts have no king," implying that the "locusts" of Amos 7 are not intended to be natural locusts, but an idiom for something else. We encounter a similar passage in Revelation chapter 9 where locusts there are described as having a king, and are clearly demonic in nature.
"And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes a man. During those days men will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them. The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon." Revelation 9:3-11

Abaddon a Hebrew word signifying:
· ruin, destruction (Job 31:12);
· place of destruction; the "http://newadvent.org/cathen/01075d.htm", realm of the dead (Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11);
· it occurs personified (Revelation 9:11) as Abaddon and is rendered in Greek by Apollyon, denoting the angel-prince of hell, the minister of death and author of havoc on earth. The Vulgate renders the Greek Apollyon by the Latin Exterminans (that is, "Destroyer"). The identity of Abaddon with "http://newadvent.org/cathen/01792c.htm", the demon of impurity, has been asserted, but not proved.
In Job 26:6, and Proverbs 15:11, the word occurs in conjunction with Sheol.

So now we have Gog, ruler of the land of Magog (Russia), king of the locusts, leader of the Russian led in invasion of Israel, associated with the angel-prince of hell, Satan! So clearly this Putin led invasion is actually another attempt by Satan to thwart the plan of God.

In the near future, a dark cloud, shall descend upon the tiny nation of Israel. This cloud is a massive army formed from a military alliance led by Putin and his allies. This is all in the Bible and foretold thousands of years ago by the prophet Ezekiel. This is the infamous Magog invasion, it will happen, the alliances are falling into place. Putin does not need motivation. Soon God will put the hook in the mouth and draw this army into battle...
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СообщениеДобавлено: Сб 23 Июл 2005, 04:12    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

Also indicating Putin is the Antichrist: Putin visited Rome on November 4 2003, on the day there was the largest solar eruption from the sun in history.

Osama bin Laden I think is the Angel of the Bottomless pit, or The Destroyer, mentioned in Revelation 9:11, a demon or unclean spirit from the depths of Hell, who creates this world crisis we are seeing now that will result in the rise to power of the Antichrist, who is the Satanic Christ, Russian President Putin.
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СообщениеДобавлено: Вт 9 Авг 2005, 01:57    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am posting this here as I am searching for an interview-partner from the “Iduschtschije bes Putina”-movement, namely Michail Obosow who is – as far as I know – the spokesman of the movement. I am writing for the german online-magazine “ZEITDENKEN”, which covers national as well as foreign affairs concerning youth and political culture.

Please contact me at: ag@oegnet.de

Sincerely yours,
A. Gilster
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СообщениеДобавлено: Чт 2 Мар 2006, 20:47    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

hello here is another interested german student.
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here it is not too much English speaking people or at least people who want to speak English. You can see it yourself: posts are quite rare in this part of our forum.

As far as I know no one here is a member of the movement, but just people who are interested in Russian politics. So if you have questions please ask.

What do you study in Germany?
Свобода - это возможность не врать самому себе
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